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 Post subject: Male removal?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:12 am 
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I currently have 15 Paralabidochromis chromogynos in my 125G tank. I just found a beautiful female on the floor behind the tank. Apparently she jumped obviously driven from the tank through chasing/aggression from the males. I am pretty certain I have 4 males in this group...two that have good blue coloring and two that have more piebald markings but with good red marking on the tail and dorsal fins (and no, I have not vented the two piebald fish...that is another skill I have yet to master :roll: )

My question is this...would you recommend removal of a few males at this time...I w as thinking to remove the two piebald males and leave the two blue males. This would leave 2 clear males with the remaining 11 fish (there could be some males in that 11 also as some of my fish are still smaller and not fully developed in color).

I do seem to have good breeding going on and do not want to disrupt the tank but I also do not want to see females being harassed or chased from the tank...maybe that is inevitable but I hope not.

Thank you for your replies and input :D


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 Post subject: Re: Male removal?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:04 am 
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cichlid-gal wrote:
I currently have 15 Paralabidochromis chromogynos in my 125G tank. I just found a beautiful female on the floor behind the tank. Apparently she jumped obviously driven from the tank through chasing/aggression from the males. I am pretty certain I have 4 males in this group...two that have good blue coloring and two that have more piebald markings but with good red marking on the tail and dorsal fins (and no, I have not vented the two piebald fish...that is another skill I have yet to master :roll: )

My question is this...would you recommend removal of a few males at this time...I w as thinking to remove the two piebald males and leave the two blue males. This would leave 2 clear males with the remaining 11 fish (there could be some males in that 11 also as some of my fish are still smaller and not fully developed in color).

I do seem to have good breeding going on and do not want to disrupt the tank but I also do not want to see females being harassed or chased from the tank...maybe that is inevitable but I hope not.

Thank you for your replies and input :D


Two males should be fine for breeding purposes, but I'd also put a lid on the tank.


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 Post subject: Re: Male removal?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:09 am 
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The more experienced on here may have a different opinion, but my thinking is, jumpers are almost inevitable for any reason. You just need a tighter lid. If fish start showing bites and missing fins, lurking, or not eating, then start manipulating things to control aggression. You've got alot of breeding going on, and I don't recall you mentioning any of the above symptoms, so I don't think you have a problem in that sense.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:28 pm 
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No no other aggression symptoms at this time....and I do have lids but I have HOB's so there is some gap at the back (I never fill the gaps ... I guess I should ... lesson learned :( )


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sometimes they just get startled. I have lights on a timer and i think sometimes that causes them to get skittish and jump. I dont cover most of my tanks, i do find jumpers from time to time. But i also lower my water level about 4-5". that helps.

Killies and really bad jumpers, cichlids i believe just get scared. Sometimes it is aggression too.

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dre_day wrote:
sometimes they just get startled. I have lights on a timer and i think sometimes that causes them to get skittish and jump. I dont cover most of my tanks, i do find jumpers from time to time. But i also lower my water level about 4-5". that helps.

Killies and really bad jumpers, cichlids i believe just get scared. Sometimes it is aggression too.


Do you use mostly sponge filters then in your tanks Dreday? HOB's would not work well with the lowered water level but I suppose canisters could if you lowered your output side. What do you run for filtration to allow the lowering of the water as I've never considered that? I like the idea of open tanks even though you get more evaporation and often on my tanks during the day I will open the covers. The fish seem to like the open surface also.


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i have sponges in all my tanks run by a central linear piston pump. A lot of producers lower the water level to keep jumpy fish from escaping, it is not full proof but does help.

You can lower your level even with an HOB, you just get more noise from the rushing water. The rushing water also mixes in a little more air which can help with gas exchange.

I used to have egg crate for tops but it just pissed me off. evaporation can be a big issue with open tanks, but mine are in the garage and it is florida. Humidity is going to be everywhere. inside everything is covered.

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 Post subject: Re: Male removal?
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Humidity is a problem, I hate lids. I'm always breaking them or some other thing. But I also keep my water level lower. :) As far as males, I don't have any tank with that many fish, but I have removed males when I have a female holding so the female can stay in her own surroundings to spit her fry. It seemed to work for that.. Don't have too much experience, but there it is for what it is worth. :)


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