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I have been useing food manufactured by Ziegler in Pensylvania (I'm on the East Coast) as their regular feed; Really good fresh food in a variety of formulations. Lately it has been a .4mm, 2mm and a 3mm sinking pellets fairly high protien and a 4mm floating spirilina based all with color enhancement botanical extracts. Ken's sells some under his brand. Many fish hatcherys and "brands" purchase in bulk from them. They mainly manufacture for coldwater fish and aquaculture, but have small infreaquent runs for tropical fish food.
The main formulation difference in feed is the oil/fat content: Cold water fish require more of it.
A hatchery owner gets some in various sizes at a remarkably reasonable price. It can be a hassel to get sometimes as Ziegler will only do a production run when they have a large enough order. The best way to buy is by the boxcar. :LOL:
I also suppliment with NLS, HBH, Ken's spirolina flake, Hikari, cyclopeese, daphnia, shrimp (budget krill), BBS, canned green beans, culled fry.


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And what Vics do you feed all that to?

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I have 4 1-2 inch Mbipia mbipi, I'm feeding flakes and freeze dried krill, is that enough?

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My fulu are like garbage disposals, not that I feed them garbage, but they will eat and thrive off of pretty much anything. I've fed them freeze dried tubifex worms, krill, plankton, hikari cichlid gold pellets, kens pellets, HBH african attack pellets, kens angel flake, Kens veggie flake, algae wafers, glass worms, mysis, pure spirulina powder... and there are likely a few I am forgetting. They gobble it all up indiscriminantly. I've been thinking about giving them some of the bunnies alfalfa pellets. I can't see much harm in it and I am pretty sure they're gonna eat it. :lol:


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i feed acording to dietary needs. i try to steer clear of high protiens like krill and the like except in cases of stimulating spawning and of course my piceatus eat mosiqueto larve so they are fed flake with glass worms and blood worms 1 X per week.

many victorians are algae scrapers thier intestines are diffrent than that of high protine eaters. check the natural dietary needs for the species you keep and try to feed as close as possible to that.

oh yes, im a huge advocate for light feeding. its best for the water quality, helps cuts down on some aquarium illness, and it keep your fish more active.

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I definitely plan on having some more specific diets layed out for the german imports. I would be very surprised if fulu have a long intestinal tract. They seem to metabolize very very quickly.


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I'm feeding reg. Flakes plus omega one veggie flakes that contain spitulina and they love it,Ialso feed my Mbipia mbipi omega one freeze dried krill they also fight over the krill they love it so much. Is that enough :?:

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actually fulus should have a long intestinal tract. the are macrophytes eaters. which means they eat aquatic plants.

i think they are one of the few vics that only eat plant matter as their main diet.

most of the hap and rock type cichlids have longer intestines due to the diet. the shorter ones are due to eating heavy proteins.

fish that are insectivores or piscivores probably have shorter tracts but not short like a SA carnivore.

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Thanks for the info Dre, When I read up on their diet a year or so ago the best I could find is that they are suspected of eating detritus including rotting plants. I have experimented with them more than any of my other fish on diet just because they seem so bullet proof. All I can say is they eat it all, and they have never shown the slightest sign of health issues. The only time I lose a fish is male on male aggression. I have gotten better at pulling the males as soon as I see their tail is bitten though. Seems to be a pattern. Bite the tail in half one day, kill a day or two later.

I do feed them a fair ammount of veggie flake too, but I will start going more heavy on the veggies and lighter on the proteins.



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Try omega one veggie flakes.

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I use Ken's tropheus, and Kens cichlid. I switch foods every day. I do use nls 1mm 1 day a week. I also fast them 1 day a week.

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I'll definitely get those in the future, I use their salmon flakes (called something else) for my fronts as treats. They love em. Definitely the highest quality ingredients I have come accross in a flake, or pellet for that matter.


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I'm not familiar with Kens. Is it a really good brand?q

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I will go so far to say some of Kens stuff is really good. Their veggie flakes seem to be exceptionally high quality and all my fish eagerly accept them... that is except my Neochromis rufocaudalis "saa nane island" :? . The thing that brings allot of us to Kens is value! I've yet to find a better deal on foods other than buying in huge quantities. Kensfish.com is where to go if you want to check it out.


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Thanks,I will try Kens. I'll be traveling for a few weeks so I wont be online.

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