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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:29 am 
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Yes, that would be when to start counting. When you see the bulging mouth. If seperating into another tank, you MAY see one or two adventurous fry out and about before the rest, and mom may attempt to grab them back up (this would also be a great time to strip the rest). This is from my observations of a few demasoni moms I seperated before I just started stripping everything. My thought process is; You're already stressing them from catching and moving, so why not let the little guys out and let mom eat a few days earlier? Plus you might save a few more fry that would get accidentally chomped when mom's trying to snatch everyone up again.
That being said, I did lose a couple moms about a week after stripping, but I believe it was due to too much male harassment after being weakened from holding. They may have benefitted from a few days eating in a seperated tank? But now there are more fish in the tank to distract my males, so I think I'm good.


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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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Thanks Alphawild for taking the time to respond to me...I seriously need the help and input and appreciate your sharing with me.


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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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Happy to answer some questions, instead of doing all the asking for a change. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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Here we go again...this time I have a fry box for the main tank on order and have spoken to a couple of different (wonderful) people trying to get things figured out...so hopefully this time around I'll get it done...these guys sure are

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OK...long story...after about 45 minutes of catching fish (Mom was the last one), I got her and put her in the bucket to await the tank refill and box setup and she spit the babies. Five (5) of them. I was so excited. I gave her a little time and dipped her a couple of times but didn't see any other little ones so put Mom back in the main tank.

Babies were put into a floating fry box (I was worried about the temp in the bucket as it had been sitting for a while) until I got the new box set up. While working on it, my husband was refilling the tank and when done I told him the water level was too high as the water was flowing over the top of the new box on the front. He lowered the water level and start priming the HOB's for refill while I was putting the babies into the new box (I opted to pour them in from the small box). My husband was directly across from me at the back of the tank filling one of the HOB's so there was flow coming towards the front. It didn't occur to me that that might be a problem. Worried more about the babies in the small box coming out of the box I was not watching the big box...as I put the babies in apparently the water level went over the top again and when I looked down I saw a baby in the main tank water. FREAKOUT. I quickly grabbed my net and caught up a couple of babies and lowered the water level in the big fry box. I was only able to recatch two (2) babies out of the five (5).

If you are not a woman you might not understand this, but I cried. I just sat down and looked at the two babies that were left and cried. So now, tears shed but still not feeling any better ....I now have my 1st two Paralabidochromis chromogynos babies. Not much or many but at least its a start. And I was proud of the mom as she was very young still and held those babies very well.

Drumroll...here they are

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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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OK...long story...after about 45 minutes of catching fish (Mom was the last one), I got her and put her in the bucket to await the tank refill and box setup and she spit the babies. Five (5) of them. I was so excited. I gave her a little time and dipped her a couple of times but didn't see any other little ones so put Mom back in the main tank.


Excited, stressed females will sometimes spit some but not all their brood. What do you mean when you say you "dipped" her? Only five fry from a female the size of the one in your video is an unusually small number. Are you sure you got them all out?

Don't be too upset. If they bred once they will likely do it again and again. You have a very nice tank setup and this species hasn't proven to be as easy to breed as some other vics.

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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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Thanks parrothead and Kevin.

The female I caught yesterday was actually a different female than the one in the video. She was further along than the one in the video and I knew she was about ready to let her babies go. Still new to this so I'm not a "stripper" :roll: but I did try to help her along after I saw her spit the babies. On another forum I read that you can gently hold the female and kinda dip her mouth in and out of the water. I had luck with that on another female I had spit babies recently (my M. sp. zebra gold lions cove WC). As I go along, I will hopefully get braver in my attempts to help the females out but for now I'm still rather reserved in my choices.

As for holding more babies...I'm not sure. She still stayed in the area of the tank that she had while holding yesterday and did not eat but my previous female (again the zebra) took a day to eat. So we will see today. She was small and still pretty young. If I did miss some I will know to be more diligent next time and put her into a box to make sure. I probably should have done that anyway in retrospect. But still learning here so each step is new ... sometimes steps are forward, sometimes backwards but at least I'm taking those #$#(% steps.

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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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Any success is still a success. Like Kevin said, you seem to have things going well in your tank, so you'll have plenty of chances to learn as you go. I'll dip a holding mom while keeping her mouth open to get the last, stubborn fry out, but I've not heard of dipping alone to get fry out?


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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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ah well...knowing me I probably got it mixed up in mind what I was supposed to be doing...I'll just have to try to get things right in the future. Thanks Alphawild :)


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maybe you said why, but why do you not want to strip the mama's?


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Hey it sounds like you are doing just fine! I just got some Ps. Demasoni (not victorian, but CARES) and one female spit on her way home in the bag!!! crazy fish!


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 Post subject: Re: Paralabidochromis chromogynos Spawning Prep 101
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beachtan wrote:
maybe you said why, but why do you not want to strip the mama's?


Inexperience, fear of hurting the female who is so precious, some readings regarding letting things happen naturally, being a little more holistic in approach to fish rearing/fish bearing...probably all those things. I'm learning as I go. As my confidence in handling holding females (removing, spitting, fry care, etc) increases, possibly my reluctance will be set aside.


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