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 Post subject: P. chilotes Zue Island
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:42 pm 
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Spring time shot of my dominant P. chilotes Zue Island. Sorry for the water spots and poor picture quality... He actually shows much more red and very little gold with out the flash...Image


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He looks great. Have they spawned for you?

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Beautiful Fish!


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 Post subject: Re: P. chilotes Zue Island
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They breed very easily, there is a holding female or two in the left of the photo.

I've distributed a few groups of these personally and have a very productive colony in the hatchery. Troy Veltrop has a pretty good size colony; deadman had a group he said were all male. He sold half to a fellow here on the East Coast who bought some more at the NEC auction. The others that were left were given to Troy, who grew them out and got one male that died. I sent Troy some more and he has more males now.
Tony Orso has been buying them wholesale from the hatchery and distributing them to retailers on the East Coast...
I really have cut the number of tanks I keep, so I don't have loads of room to separate or raise fry. When I thin out the tank populations, I am sure this species will be able to raise a brood in the tank.

If only the P. chromogynos were as easy to breed....


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teknikAL wrote:
The others that were left were given to Troy, who grew them out and got one male that died. I sent Troy some more and he has more males now.


You must have me confused with someone else about sending more males to or you are talking about another Troy. I originally bought 15 from you and still have all of them. I've not lost any at all.

The main colony that I have are mostly female (Whoot!) with 2 maybe 3 males in there and I've got about 35-40 juvies at 1" now. I will pull my backup colony from that group and I will be sending some of them down to a friend in Texas along with some P. "Senga Point" juvies (my breeders are from BigJim).


Beautiful looking male, by the way! Glad to see they are producing out east also.

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Your right! It was KevinB, not you Troy...

I don't remember if I sent Kevin any males... he may have said one colored up....

The confusion may be the Orange Rock Hunters... I was PM Tmax (Terry) who was looking for some.... I think I sent you some males Troy.....
Hey, Terry wanted me to ask if you had any ORH fry. I haven't had the space to collect fry.


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Yeah, you were probably thinking about that huge orange rock hunter male you sent me along with the H. chilotes. I still have him.

I just replied to a message from Terry on the HCCC board. I'm kind behind in catching up on emails and PM's.

I will give everyone an H. sp. 'orange rock hunter' update soon. I went looking for colonies of these from those that I had sent out back when mine first spawned and came up empty handed. There are only 2 large females left from a group sent to a good friend of all the fish I sent to other hobbyists. Those two are coming back to Iowa to join the adult group if I understand my compadre's intent correctly.

I have both an adult colony and a juvenile colony. They will not be disappearing from the hobby anytime soon. When they spawn again, there are some very competent breeders that have been standing in line for some for a looooooog time and will be hooked up. It will be my first priority to get these people groups so when I go looking again, I know I will not come up empty again. MnJason is probably been waiting the longest of everyone for these fish and I am regretful that I did not send him a group from the very beginning.

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True, Jason asked me a long time ago as well... things just haven't been right on my end for a bit.
My adult ORH colony is rough. I have two adult females and one has a swim bladder problem.


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teknikAL wrote:
They breed very easily, there is a holding female or two in the left of the photo.
If only the P. chromogynos were as easy to breed....


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Your right! It was KevinB, not you Troy...
I don't remember if I sent Kevin any males... he may have said one colored up....


Yea, teknikAL sent me a small group that was maybe 1M:5F if I remember right. Then Deadman sent me 5 females. They bred several times but the females kept the eggs for a week or so and then spit them all over the tank. Then my lone male died. So I asked teknikAL for another male, but one of the “females” turned out to be a male and colored up before he sent me any. But I haven’t seen any breeding action at all with this male. In fact he doesn’t show very good color at all anymore. And they are in a single species 55 gallon tank. I’m not finding them easy to breed at all.

Now the alluaudi and the Mbipia lutea produce fry every week or two.

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My male is always fired up. I recently realized a bunch of my "females" were actually males! My colony which was 2M:10F now looks to be 7M:5F from just looking at them.
It might be the male needs a bit of competition to keep them interested.

The P. chromogynos have only one male, maybe I need two more for a minimum of three. These males are very hard on each other though, and I have had trouble with hyper dominance and death.


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