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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:54 pm 
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I am sure some of you have heard about the couple of wild caught shipments that came in the past couple of months. It seems that there are some new species and some new blood for established species.

I also wanted to let you guys know that they are fish still available for sale. I thought they had all been scooped up right away, i was told that by several people. I guess that was for the first shipment.

I have placed an order for a few fish myself. I wish i had more money to get some more fish, but they are pretty pricey. I purchased 11 fish for 350$. I will be posting some pics once they get settled in. Their listed names do not mean much right now, but i will need to get some IDs once they settle in. I have a couple of hunches as to what they may be but i will just have to wait and see. I will be picking them up on Wednesday night.

if anyone is interested in purchasing some you can pm me or check out Old World Exotics.

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I got my fish last night, lost one velvet black in the bag but he sent 2 extra. I was shorted 2 on my neos though. the female neo look real skinny. The velvet blackmales started sparring with-in two minutes after being released in the tank. Crazy....

I feed them some black worms before i went to sleep last night and it seems they are some. More black worms until they really get settled.

As far as id, neo look like neos. The females are not OB so i say no to omni. I am thinking bihiru scraper, but will have to wait until it settles down and if red pops out on the tail.

the velvet black could be greenwoodi but not sure yet, the females were much lighter than males. But some where very stressed out from shipping.

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dre_day wrote:

I got my fish last night, lost one velvet black in the bag but he sent 2 extra. I was shorted 2 on my neos though. the female neo look real skinny. The velvet blackmales started sparring with-in two minutes after being released in the tank. Crazy....

the velvet black could be greenwoodi but not sure yet, the females were much lighter than males. But some where very stressed out from shipping.


The old Haplochromis sp. "velvet black" is Neochromis greenwoodi. The females are a lot lighter colored.

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That is what i have seen from pics. It is harder for me to see the traits of fish i have not seen in person before. 2d images only show so much.

I will see how they look when i get home today. some prelim pics may be in order.... :mrgreen:

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dre_day wrote:
It is harder for me to see the traits of fish i have not seen in person before. 2d images only show so much.


I've never been able to photograph black fish very well at all. When your "velvet black" male grows up, you will not be disappointed. It is the only black fish I would characterize as beautiful. The velvet black name is appropriate. Incredibly better looking than any photo.

Did you eer see Greg Steeves video of the mouthbrooding male N greenwoodi?
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Yea, i have seen that before. Thanks for the reminder though, now i am pretty confident that is what they are. Although it looks like i have 4m/2f.

A trade may be in order.... :twisted:

I did loose one male from the other fish. It looks like he was beat up pretty bad. I put a divider in the tank but did not secure it properly, when i came home it was knocked over the fish was near death.

Still not sure where to start the id on that one. The male looks like rufo, omni. But the females i am not sure. I am leaning towards rufocauldis but the males does not show any red yet.

They are eating blackworms, trying to get them to eat some pellets.

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Hi
The better would be to post the pics to see, in the same habitat than Neochromis greenwoodi lives Mbipia mbipi wich is very close in appearance. The rufo is easy to take apart with its very rounded head.
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took some pics today. not very good but is a start. the velvet black do not show up in my tank very well. it is painted blue and you can not see any detail in the fish. also they do not have any red showing today, maybe a little stressed with the WC.

Velvet Black Makobe
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Neochromis long fin black scraper makobe
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THe neochromis male has not shown any red yet. the females are throwing me off. From the pics available they do not seem to match up. Any opinions and thoughts are welcome.

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Very Nice Dre, thanks for sharing


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Congratz Dre !!!
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This is the problem when fishing in the lake, many specues are verry close and need time to be really investigated.
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I moved some of the fish around. i hope i can get some pics soon, once i find some time. The blue male was beating up the two females so i moved him to a 10g.

the fish that looks like a rufo is starting to color up. I think it is a male fish now, smaller than the other fish. The two females in the net pic are looking more yellow now than before. After looking at more pics i am leaning towards rufo females, with my novice id skills.

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Hi I've been looking at the same arrivage in France, the Pundamilia pundamilia Makobe shows a weird anal fin color closer to the species called pink anal nyererei, the Lithochromis I saw were to me the xanthopteryx( as no rubripinnis or rufus have ever been fished at Makobe) the sole Lithochromis species living here is xanthopteryx. The black scraper has many ressemblances with Mbipia mbipi but again the anal fin color seems strange to me( it has a white tint in place of vivid red) I saw one undescribed fish close to the big blue nyererei and one that seemed close to the sp red carp.
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I thought the velvet black was close the mbipi but looking at pics from the US they do not match, then i saw your post about how the fish here were labeled incorrectly and they do not match.

But looking at the french site they seem to be pretty close. There is white with red on the anal fin, it has not come into more red as i thought it would.

Although the velvet blacks are eating like pigs now. they have no problem eating floating pellets. the black fin scrapers are more timid when i come around and they tend to need a sinking pellet to dart out and grab.

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