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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:02 pm 
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i got a chance to get these fish. the guy is calling them flamebacks. but i have my doubt, for never have seen one in person. i pulled one out and took a pic. then i realized i should have took one of the females until after i left.


so i need a little help with this. i have not yet look for matches but i have my doubts if i cant pull any U.S. pics. so any tips would help out.

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i am kind of leaning towards red back scraper. but then again it could be a hybrid.

i wish i could have taken pics in the tank but it was dirty as ******** on the outside.

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Did he tell you where he got them from?

I have gotten burnt many times in the past with Vic's. Get as much info you can before buying them. I never had flamebacks so I can't help you there.

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Based only on pics I have seen I would say the nose is turned up too much.. But seriously I could be easily wrong.

Beautiful colors on that fish though .


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well he is not the best guy at keeping records. he said that he thought they were called flamebacks, lol which is why i am asking.

i dont think they are but i have not seen them before but from pics i have seen dont think they are flamebacks.


i like them but like me said the nose looks a little off. like i said i wish i could get a clean shot of the group. i might be over there again next week. i will try to get some more pics. but i think i will pass on these guys for now. i got good fish coming in next month :D

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Dre, if you have a cheap digital camera place it underwater sealed in a plastic baggy. Or double it up. I have done this with my wifes not so cheap camera, and some of the pics actually came out quite good. Never had any leaks either, but really only took a hand full of pics this way. Most important is to dry the bag before trying to remove the camera.


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The face shape looks a little ruby green to me.....

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I'm betting that he is calling this fish a Kyoga Flameback. There seems to be quite a bit of variety in the fish sold as a Kyoga Flameback. Since it is out of the water I'm not sure if any stripes or bars show up on ocassion.

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he looks rather similar to my kyoga flameback

one thing i do notice with these fish is if i take a picture without flash he will appear to be a deep red throughout his body but if i take the picture moments later with a flash he has the color variations your picture shows


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i too, about 5 month ago bought a group of fish being sold as hap. flameback, a fish guy who lives near buy works for one of the largest online sellers of fish, and a large distributer. as soon as i opened the box i knew they wernt hap flameback. he refunded my cash instantly, and let me keep the fish. he did some checking and gave me the name of the individual who bred them. he is a known breeder of discus.{peter durkin} so i got in touch with him, he responded and said that he recieved his breeders from a fla. that is next to old world, and that the breeders came in in the 2007 w/c shipment of victorians. he said that he thought they were from lake nwampassa, and that he sold them as so, {i cant verify any of this so to me its hear say} and the distributer has dropped the lake nwampassa, and is selling them as hap. flamebacks.

if you would look at this thread and the the bottom 5 pictures are the fish i got when i bought hap. flame back.
and let me know if they look close to yours.
http://cichlidsofvictoria.com/viewtopic.php?t=347

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yea pretty close. although they were not really stressed so i dint not see any stripes. i wish i had taken pics of the females.

but yea a lot of people use flamebacks as a name not knowing where the names come from.

also it is very hard to id these fish from name alone. thanks for the input. i will try to get some more pics next week.

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I saw a bag at the NJAS auction Sunday with five adult males marked Kyoga Flameback. Looked very similar to the one in the net above. No stripes or bars in the bag.

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