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 Post subject: Rarest Lake Victorian still in the hobby
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:54 am 
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Just curious, and I know that is is an opinion based question.

What are the rarest Victorians that still in the hobby? Have you seen any lately, and are they pretty fish (again opinion).

Attach pictures and where you last saw them.

Just a curiousity on my part.


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Would that be "Red List" standards". I guess that would be a place to start. I think Haplochromis.org has the Red List status in their species photo list..... Several in the hobby are extinct in the wild, one has hybridized in the wild (technically extinct), a couple of these are only in Zoos.
You are talking strictly Lake Victoria?

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ishmaeil would be one that is extinct in the wild.

or do you mean rare in the hobby?? hard to say on that point.

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 Post subject: Re: Rarest Lake Victorian still in the hobby
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Hi,

rare in the hobby in our place is Pundamilia sp. Luanso. Only Marco keeps some.


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Hi,

one person in france contains also the Pundamilia sp. Luanso, but Axel have the Pundamilia pundamilia from Kissenda. And these are very rar in our hobby...

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Hi some that we don't know if they are still alive
Haplochromis"Enterochromis" erythocephalus
H.sp"Nyanzae"
H.serranus
H.cavifrons
H."red" parvidens
H.sp"shovel mouth"
H.sp"golden duck" this one is still alive
H.sp"broken lire tricolor"
H;brownae
H.sp"silver stiletto"
H."Macropleurodus"bicolor
Hoplotilapia retrodens
there are many more that we don't know about their statut in aquaria
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There are species that are considered extinct in the wild and unknown if any hobbyist, or instituition has any.

I'm pretty proud of the 4 Adult Paralabidochromis chilotes "Ruti Island", I'm the only one in the USA with them (i now have a female juvie growing out also).
As far as we know only Axel and Thomas have just a few pairs, and they sent me 2 pairs, thanks guys!

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xristof wrote:
Hi some that we don't know if they are still alive
H."Macropleurodus"bicolor
there are many more that we don't know about their statut in aquaria
xristof :D


Ahhh, I see Christophe is digging through the archives.

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Any idea if this is really Macropleurodus sp. "bicolor"

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I think the Columbus Zoo is the center of the LVSSP. :mrgreen:
They have a few rare fish, to say the least.
Syracuse Rosamond Gifford Zoo has the Y. sp "argens", a very plain silver fish.... Greg Steeves wants them. hehe.

I found the LVSSP contact person, stud book keeper for that fish; then lost the info, then found it last week and misplaced it. He is in Ohio. When I met Dr. Paul Loiselle last year, he did not think much of that specific species as an aquarium trade specimen. I mentioned it was desirable by private clubs of LV cichlid conservationists and he said he may help in getting some.... Dr. Loiselle has been involved in endangered species for a while.


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H. sp "orange rock hunter" is also extinct in the wild I am told.
I have some fry and their growing fast!


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 Post subject: Re: Rarest Lake Victorian still in the hobby
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hi Kevin, the M.bicolor I know are blue bodied so I really don't know. it could be that species as some did show some color variations
Allen:The ORH lives in only one island and seems to not be very numerous in its place.
I kept more than 10 years ago Neochromis gigas and never found any new specimens from this species;
if H.argens still lives in the Us, it's great, we are unable to find some in Europe again.
xris :D


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