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Yes use a rubber hose and 2 hose clamps to run it to your pvc. I have my piping run up near the ceiling so that I don't have to worry about check valves. I run 1/2" pvc a threaded T and a brass hose barb along with a brass reducer is all I use.
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Looks simple enough, what do you use to secure the T to the PVC pipes ? Silicone ?

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PVC cement, make sure you give it a few days running before you put it in tanks to get any fumes out.
I have some that aren't glued at all, I don't think it will hurt the carpet if my house floods with air :lol:
Use plumbers tape where you screw the stuff together or it may never come apart.
Its quite simple, it took me a good hour or so to get it all worked out in the hardware store. It turned out to be a dollar or 2 per outlet. If you need to plug one of your outlets put on a scrap bit of airline and bend it in half and use a twisty tie to keep it folded.

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This is what I did in my frontosa room.

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I am assuming those little barb connectors can be purchased at home improvement type shops? I saw them on kens, but figured they were probably just as cheap elsewhere.


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I never found them locally hence the method I came up with. Jim do you have a back flow protector on that?
I ran mine on the ceiling so there was no need of any back flow protection, water usually doesn't flow uphill :lol:

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Check valve on every line. I have lost power and never had a problem. I'm debating making a shelve for the pump where I would not have to worry about it. The thing I like about this is, I control the air in every line with the valves on my manifold.

This is the AV50 air pump.

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those brass valves are not easy to find at hardware stores. i have not seen them anywhere besides fish stores.

its a specialty item. i plan on ordering mine online.

and jim how are the brass ones working out? i heard that the brass and silver ones can corrode and then brake. i think i am going to use the plastic ones and if they brake its pretty cheap to replace.

oh but i see now that yours how nobs and not leavers. some friends told me the leavers snap right off.

and yea use pvc cement and run the pump for a day or 2 to blow out any fumes that may arise from the glue. and if you have a lot of pvc you will need to seal all of it. the more air that escapes means that the valves on the end will have little pressure.

ferns idea is nice but costly. those brass peices are like 5-6$ each piece, 2 per outlet. opposed to the airline valves which are 2-3$ for the brass and about 1$ for plastic.

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I have thought about using some of those little valves.... But never heard much about them?
Each outlet is run to a 4-8 gang valve, so its not as bad as you think. Plus running to the hardware store is easier for me than ordering stuff online. I also buy my gang valves used for $.75-1 per outlet so its not bad.

I don't have the lack of pressure issue, I have to bleed some air outside anyways because my blower is a serious one.

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You can get the bras air valves at Ken's from $1.10 to $1.40 a valve. When I got mine 4 years ago the $1.40 valves were only 1 dollar. I spent over $100.00 on brass valves.
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oh yea fern i forgot you are running a blower. my bad.

yea i forgot to check kens. thanks jim.
its the same price as jehmco too.

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Big Jim";p="4626 wrote:
You can get the bras air valves at Ken's from $1.10 to $1.40 a valve. When I got mine 4 years ago the $1.40 valves were only 1 dollar. I spent over $100.00 on brass valves.
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well I already put in my order for kens fish, so I think ferns method, or maybe my own will have to suffice.. I can always change it up in the future. For now though, I have a bunch of gang valves lying around, so at least I will get some use out of them ;)

One of the frontosa.com users had a good system where he made a T after the hose off the pump, and then just ran a loop. In this way you don't lose pressure towards the end of the line. I think this will be my ultimate goal, though I will maybe do just a single straight pipe for now (easy enough to build on).

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I run 2 x AP 100 in my fish room outside. I have over 120 brass valves running now. The room is ran in a loop with 2 stages on the loop. Here are some pictures.

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My final goal is a full loop around the ceiling of my fish room, I'm only 3/4 of the way there though. Its very easy to add on as you go! I have drop downs from the loop where I am adding on my air outlets and I don't glue on any of the end caps in case I need to add another outlet. I also need to run some out into the garage for my big tank and any other tanks that end up out there :lol:
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More picture would be awesome. Me can take something from everyone and add it to his system. I might see something I like. I would add it to my system this summer when I replace my sheet rock wall.

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