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I will be purchasing a used 240g (8'x2'x2') acrylic tank today. I have never used acrylic so I would like to know more about it. Here are a few things on my 'need to learn' list :lol:
1)How neurotic do I need to be with building a stand, Same as for a glass tank?
2)Can I use silicon if I need to add in a divider, or is there a better way?
3)How would you get algae off? I always used a razor blade on glass and I know that won't work with acrylic.
4)If I am going to add a fair amount of rock in it should I still use egg crate on the bottom to diffuse the weight?
5)can I lay my florescent lights directly on the top border/lip? Or will the heat harm the acrylic?
6) is acrylic easily drilled and how is that done?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.....

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1. stand does not need to be as strong, since acrylic 250 is alot lighter. Also, acrylic could handle if the stand is crooked better. Still go ahead and over engineer it.

2. you can use silicon but it does not stick so well on acrylic. i usually just use rock, pots to lean against the dividers.

3. I don't use a razor blade. I simply use a wash cloth or shamwow or just my hand.

4. the rock won't hurt the acrylic like it will glass, still won't hurt if you want to diffuse the weight.

5. lights won't harm the acrylic, won't get hot enough.

6. Some acrylic tanks are easier to drill than others. Some are more flexible/plastic like. Others are more rigid and glass like.
The ones that are glass like, if you use a too big bit, you will SPLIT the plexi, or at least 4-5 inch split. So make sure you dont start off with a huge bit, use a tiny pilot drill bit and move up from there.


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Good info TR6, more than I knew about acrylic!

The only thing I would add is be careful not to place the rocks too close to the walls. I did this leaving about a centimeter, and whether current, fish or my clumsiness, the rocks worked their way against the acrylic and scratched it. On a similar note I was following my fish with a digi cam, and got too close and scratched the acrylic with the camera. It is very durable, but scuffs and scratches are something to be careful of if you want it too look perfect.


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Fern,

Who is the manufacture of the acrylic tank ?

I use a soft sponge or paper towel to wipe of algae on the surface.

Silicon will not adhese/bond to the plexiglass. I use dividers in my tanks (all Truvu's), I had them custom cut to the exact inner dims. A deep substrate or aquascaping will keep them in place.

SeaClear and Truvu are two of the best out there.

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you can use a credit card to scrape off the hard green algae. but be careful, to much pressure and you can scratch.

unless you are using metal halide lights they should be fine.

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Tenecor is the manufacturer.here is a picture of itImage
I don't think I will need to drill it but I figured I would as just in case.
Its definitely not a perfect tank it has a few scratches and what not already, I only paid $300 for it and scratches never bothered me. but its fully functional.
I have a 2 x 8 custom table my dad built for the office to hold machinery, so its already built like a brick outhouse, I will just reinforce that some if I don't have to be as neurotic about small warps as I would for glass.
So I could lay a double 48" T12 florescent right on the top of it without harm? Or should I just hang the light?

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Oh, and excuse the mess! Its a bit cramped in my fish room :)

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Fern,

First of all....Congrats on that new "bad boy" of a tank! Just think of how many Vics you can keep in there -:)

My 75g long has suffered some warping on the top panel. It's bowed up a little. I use to run an algae scrubber when I kept saltwater friends. I'm not sure if the top warped due to that or just the heat of the tank/lights over time. My 125g will is just as old (20+yrs) but it is as true as it was new.

I would not lay the lights directly on the top of the tank....think suspending them over the tank is the way to go, IMHO.

What are you planning to use for filtration?

Congrats again!

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it looks like you tank is already drilled... with black overflow boxes.

and yea the t12 should be fine. just try to keep some between them and the water surface to avoid moisture frying them out.

and dont worry about your fish room, i have a 125g on the floor on one side waiting for its new home. i have about 20 tanks that are dry waiting for me to build some stands. hopefully i get motivated this weekend.....

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What's going on in the plastic tubs on the right Fern? Fry?

That's a popular way of raising fry in Oz as well.

As for acrylic tanks. I don't know a single person here that uses them. Never even seen one in an LFS.


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I did once put a small florescent on top of my 150 gallon acrylic, and there was some bowing that occurred, so definitely have them at least an inch or two away.


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Frenzy";p="3735 wrote:
What's going on in the plastic tubs on the right Fern? Fry?

That's a popular way of raising fry in Oz as well.

As for acrylic tanks. I don't know a single person here that uses them. Never even seen one in an LFS.


I've not even had a glass tank for 20 years.

Acrylic cost a bit more, but everytime i find a deal, i grab them.
got a 125, 55, 40 empty outside, no more space.


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tr6";p="3742 wrote:
Frenzy";p="3735 wrote:
What's going on in the plastic tubs on the right Fern? Fry?

That's a popular way of raising fry in Oz as well.

As for acrylic tanks. I don't know a single person here that uses them. Never even seen one in an LFS.


I've not even had a glass tank for 20 years.
They cost a bit more, but everytime i find a deal, i grab them.
got a 125, 55, 40 empty outside, no more space.


Wow. I wonder why the acrylic hasn't kicked off down here. I haven't been around long enough to know about the why's and wherefores but I'll start asking now.


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cost i suppose.
a 10g glass can be found for 15 new.
a 10g plexi can be about 50.

a glass 55 $100.
55 plexi $263.

depends how your glass production is in your country, and if you have alot of plexi companies.
glass may be very cheap to produce in your country, plexi may cost alot more to make.

i like plexi, about half the weight, so i don't need any help to pick up a 125g, if it was glass, id kill myself.

plexi holds the temperature more constant.
plexi you don't have to worry about the joints/seams failing.

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tr6";p="3746 wrote:

i like plexi, about half the weight, so i don't need any help to pick up a 125g, if it was glass, id kill myself.
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This is the main reason I love plexi too! Plus you can accidentally bump it a little without a sudden disaster. Not that I am not still very careful, but frankly I can be a clutz at times. In some cases I would say it's less than half the weight, depending on the glass. My 55 gallon glass weighs more than my 80 gallon glass. Different glass I guess :?


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