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 Post subject: Building a wall rack
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So I actually have a wall shelving unit to use which is about 9 ft tall by 13 ft wide ( a bit bigger in both directions). I need to take most of it down and rebuild it so my tanks fit. I plan on having 2 rows of 3 55 gallon tanks, and then one row which is either going to be 2 6 foot tanks, or a hodge podge of other tanks. I was hoping someone might have some pics of a similar rack or at least some good advice about how much space between the tank tops and the next of shelf is recommended, as well as support ideas. My brother is going to be helping build the shelf, and has already drafted out a design, he has done shelving before. He wants to overbuild it. I want it built, but want to keep as much space as possible to work with the fish. I just want an efficient high strength design.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I didn't think I was going to have to tear down as much of the original shelf as I do, and really want to have this done by the weekend.


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I would rather over build than under build. I bought all my racks so I can't you much.

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 Post subject: Re: Building a wall rack
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I agree. Over engineer the project,

I use 4 x 4 legs and 2 x 4 cross pieces placed in routered grooves with plywood shelvies and foam padding under the tanks.

Sometimes it is better to start from scratch.

Is the wall unit on basement concrete floor or on wooden 1st floor type. If wooden first floor, you better consider floor load for that many tanks

To give you an idea of the weight

Tank Size L x W x H Filled Weight
50 gallon 36" x 18" x 19" 600 lbs
55 gallon 48" x 13" x 21" 625 lbs
65 gallon 36" x 18" x 24" 772 lbs
75 gallon 48" x 18" x 21" 850 lbs
90 gallon 48" x 18" x 24" 1050 lbs
125 gallon 72" x 18" x 21" 1400 lbs
150 gallon 72" x 18" x 28" 1800 lbs
180 Gallon 72" x 24" x 25" 2100 lbs

so 6 55 gal tanks would weight about 6 * 625 lbs = 3725 lbs
2 125 gal tanks would weight about 2 * 1400 lobs = 2800 lbs

So with out the hodgepod of tanks, 6500+ lbs

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Thanks for the response King Lucky, It's a concrete basement floor. Sorry I should've mentioned that. It is a concrete floor and against a concrete wall. Pretty much we do plan on rebuilding the whole thing, I would like to avoid using 4x4's simply because they will be a pain to cut, and 2x4's are really cheap right now. The vertical 2x4's on the back side of the current shelving unit are anchored into the wall with steel bands. I am thinking keeping those incorporated can only be a good thing, since the northwest is long overdue for a huge earthquake.

So my only real concern is the shelves themshelves handling the weight


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I guess a simpler question may be, what is the best way to creat massive ammount of support using 2x4's? They are dirt cheap right now, so that is what I would like to use.


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Use 2 2x4's side by side, make your own 4x4.

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my father in-law and i had a conversation about this not to long ago. i was telling him about my building and he gave me some ideas for next time or a rebuild.

here what he told me,
build the racks like a deck. use 4x4 for the corners and 2x6 or 2x4 for the shelves and position them lengthwise with cross supports every 1'-2'. So basically the shelve looks like a deck and is flat. then you can place the styro on that to help level the tanks. and i think you would use 4x4 for the bracing on the ends between the corner pieces.

it sounds pretty good to me but i have yet to try it or see it done. just food for thought.

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Big Jim";p="7064 wrote:
Use 2 2x4's side by side, make your own 4x4.


seems simple enough, I don't anticipate to many problems, I just like imput. Thanks Big Jim


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kevin b wrote an article on structral integrity for tank suppotr in houses and had some tips, maybe he will tell us where to find it.

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