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 Post subject: Lithochromis xanthopteryx aquascaping emergency
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:26 am 
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I just finished moving all of my fish and in the course of 2 days have lost 3 Lithochromis xanthopteryx to unknown causes. All of my other fish are fine with the new water including my Compressiceps. I am not ruling out aggression, but I have seen none. Because these came from Germany so small they were in a ten gallon tank until the move. Now they are in a bare 55 gallon with sponge filtration.

I really don't want to lose this group, so any help with how to keep them alive would be greatly appreciated. I know marco or axel said something in the past... I think that overcrowding with no territories is best. Does that sound right?


I have 10 remaining so all is not lost, but I want to have all the information possible to keep this group rolling.

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Was that 55 gallon cycled up and running for a while. Maybe the Nitrites have spiked, did you test the water. What kindf of sponge filtration?? Maybe add an additional sponge or other filtration until the tank stabilizes. I just completed my move and thank God that I didn't lose any of my Lithochromis Xanthopteryx. I let the tank cycle back up before I moved them into the tank.

As for the agression, I do have rocks in there so they do have their own teritory. I experience the normal flaring and pushing matches, but no where to the point to where they are damaging themselves.

Can you post some pics of them.


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 Post subject: Re: Lithochromis xanthopteryx aquascaping emergency
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Thanks for the info, the tanks went up with fresh water, a double dose of prime, baking soda, empsom salt and a cycled filter which was moved in tank water. It's hard for me to beleive their was a spike simply because they are all under 2 inches and volume of fresh water, and none of the other fish I have have had any problems. Knock on wood.

I will get some photos asap, but it will probably be a couple days. Could you show me some pics of your tank?

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Maybe they are still adjusting to the water here compared to the water in Europe.
Do they look stressed, are they breathing hard. Maybe the four recents moves from Europe, to the US, to you, and then to the new place was to much stress on them. I would think that it is something in the water as you lost three in such a short time. Is the water in the tank clear or cloudy?? Maybe you overloaded the bacteria in the sponge by starting such a new large tank. I hope things settle down and you don't lose anymore. Finding these guys around here is not very easy and you don't see them very often.

Here are a couple of pics of mine. They are juvies just starting to darken up and still waiting for them to start spawning.

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Dom and sub-dom males pushing match
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beautiful male, I think you may be right about the water. I may have actually buffered there tank less than the others because they are so rare and I didn't want to raise the ph too much, but contrary to the town water report I am learning it is fairly soft here. No more losses and they all look healthy. Never saw any breathing issues.


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